Comments on: Reflections on recent news

By: realist

realist — Sat, 06 Aug 2011 20:51:03 +0000

RedGate .NET Reflector v7.2.0.143 + C# Source 4,523 downloads… lol, basically if you don’t want to pay redgate.. then just do what everyone else does… download it from you local free market and it even comes with sourcecode if you want to make it better. And stop complaining, just stop paying. thats all I can say.

On the other hand, Lutz got paid out good sums of money for his hard work to date when RedGate bought it from him… Paying redgate is just a reflection of that *pun intended* So money makes the world go round.. get over it.

Regards, Realist.

By: Jon Davis

Jon Davis — Thu, 24 Feb 2011 23:03:57 +0000

To those who thing RedGate deserves $$ for Reflector, go do your history lesson homework. RedGate didn’t produce Reflector, they acquired it from the guy who made it and distributed it for free (that is, for donations), and then they told the world that it would continue to be free while the future version with new features would be a paid version.

In other words, 1) they lied about it continuing to be free, and 2) they didn’t make it, how can they be “deserving” pay?

The equivalent software to the original Reflector in open source form is called ILSpy. May such software always be free!

Side note: I am a licensed user of Resharper and I would love to see IL decompilation support in Resharper, and would also love to spite RedGate.

By: Jura Gorohovsky

Jura Gorohovsky — Sat, 19 Feb 2011 19:49:27 +0000

@Jetbrain$$$$$, Alex B
I hope you feel a bit better now
http://blogs.jetbrains.com/dotnet/2011/02/resharper-6-bundles-decompiler-free-standalone-tool-to-follow/

By: bliz

bliz — Fri, 18 Feb 2011 03:54:34 +0000

The title, I love it.

By: Roland

Roland — Tue, 15 Feb 2011 19:59:39 +0000

The only thing is :s I dont wanna to load whole VS 2010 just to reflect some assembly.

This would have to have some kind of external window also.

By: Lori

Lori — Wed, 09 Feb 2011 05:38:05 +0000

Okay JetBrains… listen. If you got a tool that does everything that Reflector does, and you want to charge me $50 for it, I will buy.

Just as long as its not ransomware and just as long as you don’t tell me its going to be free then charge me later on.

By: Richard

Richard — Tue, 08 Feb 2011 13:34:02 +0000

@Alex: I could just as easily ask if you’re paid by RedGate.

@Alex + Jetbrain$$$$: As Jason said, it’s not about paying for the tool. It’s not even about having to pay for v7 when previous versions have always been free. It’s the fact that v6 is going to expire and delete itself, and RedGate think it’s acceptable to force users to pay for the upgrade even if they don’t want it.

Yes, we’ve all heard the argument that Lutz added the expiry date to avoid supporting out-of-date installations; it’s the only response we’ve had from RedGate. As many of us have pointed out, that was fine when the update was free, but when the update costs money, it’s nothing short of extortion.

How would you feel if Microsoft announced that the next version of SQL Express would cost $10 per installation, and that all existing installations would expire and delete themselves unless you paid for the upgrade? Would you then claim that everyone who complained about the decision must be paid by Oracle?

OK, so the JetBrains version is likely to cost more than $35. So what? JetBrains have never ripped me off. JetBrains have never told me that I’m not allowed to continue using an old version of one of their tools because they want me to pay for the new version.

By: Jason Bunting

Jason Bunting — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 19:03:05 +0000

@Alex: I think you miss the point. This isn’t about paying money for a tool. It’s about Red Gate forcing us to pay money for a tool that was always free and originally implying that it would remain free, and then all-of-a-sudden charging money for it because they, not the community, made a bad investment by spending the money to add features to the tool that were not asked-for, and don’t want to eat the costs of their bad investment.

Also, don’t forget that Lutz Roeder was the one who initially created and maintained Reflector for somewhere close to 6 years before Red Gate got involved - if anything, I credit him far more than Red Gate - the only regret that he sold it to a company that has decided to force users to eat the costs of their poor judgment.

By: Alex B

Alex B — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 17:01:13 +0000

Good god. Are you all paid by Jetbrains or something. I will also pay a few $s for the upgrade instead of loads of $$$$$$$$$$$$$ for the Jetbrains version.
Been using the excellent Reflector for years so don’t feel it’s unfair to finally pay a few $$$ to them. They deserve it.

By: Jake

Jake — Mon, 07 Feb 2011 00:08:53 +0000

Sweet jeezus! this is wonderful. Reflector didn’t/wont get iterator blocks until v7! well done.