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	<title>Comments on: Designing GUI with pleasure: live demo</title>
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		<title>By: J9</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2006/07/designing-gui-with-pleasure-live-demo/#comment-1110</link>
		<dc:creator>J9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Jul 2006 07:41:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops. Sorry I've been using old beta...
So I'd like to answer my own questions :-)
1. It's possible now to mark any control to by custom created, so I could create my table by hand and layout it automatically.
2. It's possible to configure GUI module to show generated code ($$$setupUI$$$)
3. GUI Snapshot works for me, but the way it's implemented a little bit strange to me (I have to run an application, so there is no parser from code, but rather reflection?)

A) Is it possible to make a form configuration there ALL components could be a "custom create"??? I mean separate the creation and the layout???

B) Is it possible to make the form class as a Component (JPanel) instead of creating the panel inside it (So the form class will be a component itself and I could add it in any place in my program)

C) If I have ScrollPane in "custom create" mode and then JTable also in "custom mode" there is a setViewport() method for the ScrollPane, but I already pass my JTable while creating it (just a doubt).

D) For GridBagLayout constraint created every time for any component??? (Not sure for the latest beta).

The only thing left is to buy a licence... :-( We have a big war between a Netbeans and IDEA and the main issue is a GUI creator...

Kind Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops. Sorry I&#8217;ve been using old beta&#8230;<br />
So I&#8217;d like to answer my own questions <img src='http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
1. It&#8217;s possible now to mark any control to by custom created, so I could create my table by hand and layout it automatically.<br />
2. It&#8217;s possible to configure GUI module to show generated code ($$$setupUI$$$)<br />
3. GUI Snapshot works for me, but the way it&#8217;s implemented a little bit strange to me (I have to run an application, so there is no parser from code, but rather reflection?)</p>
<p>A) Is it possible to make a form configuration there ALL components could be a &#8220;custom create&#8221;??? I mean separate the creation and the layout???</p>
<p>B) Is it possible to make the form class as a Component (JPanel) instead of creating the panel inside it (So the form class will be a component itself and I could add it in any place in my program)</p>
<p>C) If I have ScrollPane in &#8220;custom create&#8221; mode and then JTable also in &#8220;custom mode&#8221; there is a setViewport() method for the ScrollPane, but I already pass my JTable while creating it (just a doubt).</p>
<p>D) For GridBagLayout constraint created every time for any component??? (Not sure for the latest beta).</p>
<p>The only thing left is to buy a licence&#8230; <img src='http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> We have a big war between a Netbeans and IDEA and the main issue is a GUI creator&#8230;</p>
<p>Kind Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: J9</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2006/07/designing-gui-with-pleasure-live-demo/#comment-1080</link>
		<dc:creator>J9</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 13:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I did'n get is how to plug my own model to a component.
Should I do it after a component being created?
I mean a usual JTable table = new JTable(myModel);
will look like 
JTable table = new JTable(); 
... 
table.setModel(myModel)???

Maybe I'm asking too much...
I mean I coundn't see ANY generated code... without the jad.
Is there a way (plans) to make the generated code editable?
As I understand there will be a feature to generate a form from a 
class so anyway you will have some parser, so why not to give me the two way editor ($$$setupUI$$$  form)?

Thank you for your great IDE</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I did&#8217;n get is how to plug my own model to a component.<br />
Should I do it after a component being created?<br />
I mean a usual JTable table = new JTable(myModel);<br />
will look like<br />
JTable table = new JTable();<br />
&#8230;<br />
table.setModel(myModel)???</p>
<p>Maybe I&#8217;m asking too much&#8230;<br />
I mean I coundn&#8217;t see ANY generated code&#8230; without the jad.<br />
Is there a way (plans) to make the generated code editable?<br />
As I understand there will be a feature to generate a form from a<br />
class so anyway you will have some parser, so why not to give me the two way editor ($$$setupUI$$$  form)?</p>
<p>Thank you for your great IDE</p>
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		<title>By: James Head</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2006/07/designing-gui-with-pleasure-live-demo/#comment-1077</link>
		<dc:creator>James Head</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 09:08:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Holy crap that was sweet.  Just downloaded the EAP and played around with it.  Very very impressive.  Still getting my head around the custom form object idea creates (my first reaction would be, - why can't I just have .java files? but I imagine that just shows i'm a n00b).

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Holy crap that was sweet.  Just downloaded the EAP and played around with it.  Very very impressive.  Still getting my head around the custom form object idea creates (my first reaction would be, - why can&#8217;t I just have .java files? but I imagine that just shows i&#8217;m a n00b).</p>
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		<title>By: Alexandra Rusina</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2006/07/designing-gui-with-pleasure-live-demo/#comment-1076</link>
		<dc:creator>Alexandra Rusina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 08:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We are planning a demo about our EJB support, but I can't tell any exact dates yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are planning a demo about our EJB support, but I can&#8217;t tell any exact dates yet.</p>
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		<title>By: t800t8</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2006/07/designing-gui-with-pleasure-live-demo/#comment-1073</link>
		<dc:creator>t800t8</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Jul 2006 03:01:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Really nice demo. Now I'm waiting for JavaEE demo ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Really nice demo. Now I&#8217;m waiting for JavaEE demo <img src='http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Jake</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2006/07/designing-gui-with-pleasure-live-demo/#comment-1057</link>
		<dc:creator>Jake</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:09:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks cool, but can't help myself, it looks so damn like Matisse...
Would IDEA be able to read th forms files of Matisse - or the other way around???

Greetz
J..e

P.S.: I'm not a regular IDEA user and btw. I'm not using any IDE on a regular base, but always the one which fullfils my needs at most for the current purpose, so it's just an unprepossessed question.

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks cool, but can&#8217;t help myself, it looks so damn like Matisse&#8230;<br />
Would IDEA be able to read th forms files of Matisse - or the other way around???</p>
<p>Greetz<br />
J..e</p>
<p>P.S.: I&#8217;m not a regular IDEA user and btw. I&#8217;m not using any IDE on a regular base, but always the one which fullfils my needs at most for the current purpose, so it&#8217;s just an unprepossessed question.</p>
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		<title>By: Dmitry Jemerov</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2006/07/designing-gui-with-pleasure-live-demo/#comment-1040</link>
		<dc:creator>Dmitry Jemerov</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 15:13:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello John,

Thank you for your support!
In fact, Eclipse VE stores form definitions only as source code, so the request to support VE would basically mean "support for loading a GUI form from an arbitrary Java class". This a major new feature, and it's planned for the next version of IntelliJ IDEA after 6.0.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello John,</p>
<p>Thank you for your support!<br />
In fact, Eclipse VE stores form definitions only as source code, so the request to support VE would basically mean &#8220;support for loading a GUI form from an arbitrary Java class&#8221;. This a major new feature, and it&#8217;s planned for the next version of IntelliJ IDEA after 6.0.</p>
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		<title>By: John Childress</title>
		<link>http://blogs.jetbrains.com/idea/2006/07/designing-gui-with-pleasure-live-demo/#comment-1039</link>
		<dc:creator>John Childress</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:42:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, I've been an IDEA user for a few years now and totally it.  I tried the GUI Designer when it first came out, but wasn't very impressed.  

For the past few years I've actually been using Eclipse's Visual Editor for all of my Swing work; all of my team mates use it as well.  I hate using two tools for work, but the Eclipse VE works fine for us, a little slow, but otherwise nice.  

I watched/worked the demo on Javalobby and was really blow away by the features.  The experience was just like IDEA's editor, awesome...  My only "problem" is that my team still uses Eclipse.  I can open the generated java files in Eclipse, but I can't "use" them in the Visual Editor.  As much as I wish they would all switch to IDEA, they most likely aren't.  

Is it too much to ask for some kind of "support" between Eclipse's VE and IDEA's GUI Designer?  Or will this just result in an undending list of "support my visual designer as well" requests?  

Anyway, awesome demo.

John</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, I&#8217;ve been an IDEA user for a few years now and totally it.  I tried the GUI Designer when it first came out, but wasn&#8217;t very impressed.  </p>
<p>For the past few years I&#8217;ve actually been using Eclipse&#8217;s Visual Editor for all of my Swing work; all of my team mates use it as well.  I hate using two tools for work, but the Eclipse VE works fine for us, a little slow, but otherwise nice.  </p>
<p>I watched/worked the demo on Javalobby and was really blow away by the features.  The experience was just like IDEA&#8217;s editor, awesome&#8230;  My only &#8220;problem&#8221; is that my team still uses Eclipse.  I can open the generated java files in Eclipse, but I can&#8217;t &#8220;use&#8221; them in the Visual Editor.  As much as I wish they would all switch to IDEA, they most likely aren&#8217;t.  </p>
<p>Is it too much to ask for some kind of &#8220;support&#8221; between Eclipse&#8217;s VE and IDEA&#8217;s GUI Designer?  Or will this just result in an undending list of &#8220;support my visual designer as well&#8221; requests?  </p>
<p>Anyway, awesome demo.</p>
<p>John</p>
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